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#1 Sadako vs. Insane Survivors | Dead by Daylight

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  • not Otzdarva
    not Otzdarva  개월 전 +336

    Don't miss today's video on the main channel btw! krclip.com/video/ROQrSKHDKfs/비디오.html

    • DeathCodm
      DeathCodm 개월 전

      Should have had an endgame build and just build up condem

    • Elias Alvarez
      Elias Alvarez 개월 전

      can you do a video on why onryo needs a buff?

    • Klepto Kross
      Klepto Kross 개월 전

      @not Otzdarva Would using Franklin’s Demise allow Sadako to force survivors to drop the video tapes?

    • Kully
      Kully 개월 전

      Wraith is way stronger than you think.

    • hehe Xd
      hehe Xd 개월 전 +1

      you have main channel? lol xD im new and i thought this is your main channel cause of the sub count and activity being high

  • Chessed Gamon
    Chessed Gamon 개월 전 +4152

    Bold choice for the killer haunting and murdering the survivors in real life 7 days after the match, I really wasn't expecting that sort of play

    • SilentHotdog28
      SilentHotdog28 4 일 전 +1

      @ALE melchenko one of his videos is titled "I got too high at work" yeah real smart haha. I'm a lazy person, but even I managed to buy my own home before I was 30. You have to at least put some effort in.

    • J Julius Blaze Productions
      J Julius Blaze Productions 개월 전 +1

      hardest part of playing Sadako but so worth it

    • JustQerq
      JustQerq 개월 전 +3

      @Ichigo3316 Yes, all of them were murdered irl by some unidentified spanish youtuber/streamer, investigation still ongoing.

    • Ichigo3316
      Ichigo3316 개월 전

      Wait did one of them die irl?

    • DragonologyDepartment
      DragonologyDepartment 개월 전 +2

      Oh, is that the new Mori update they’ve been talking about?

  • One Pump Willie
    One Pump Willie 개월 전 +1191

    It was really refreshing going against survivors that were consistently counter-playing Sadako. Thank you for that experience

    • Walex
      Walex 16 일 전

      It was really refreshing watching a killer that downs, hooks, downs, hooks, and reaches 12 hooks without slugging/camping/tunneling. Oh wait.

    • Evil Twin
      Evil Twin 개월 전

      The Legend

    • Sk0rsh
      Sk0rsh 개월 전

      Common Willie W

    • Jamol Kelly
      Jamol Kelly 개월 전

      You were awesome dude you went up against pros

    • Itz Potentialz
      Itz Potentialz 개월 전

      @taleladar He has an overall build for his strategy. What perk would he trade out for Forced Penance if you are suggesting that? I believe all his perks compliments his overall gameplay.

  • Dylan B
    Dylan B 개월 전 +845

    This did makes me a bit sad to see how survivors can avoid condemned right in the killers face, both feng and nea got away with it, its pretty crazy tbh that that is a thing

    • Alice Null
      Alice Null 19 일 전

      @Inacurate Id make it activate near Sadako, so we don't end up with an "I'm all ears" situation (Surviver being miles away because WHY ARE SO MANY MAPS SI MASSIVE?) XD

    • Yobungus79
      Yobungus79 개월 전

      @ndfd m kindred most definitely should not be basekit, it's one of the strongest perks in the game even if you're not solo, knowing exactly where all your teammates and if the killer is camping is incredible info even if you're a swf

    • Nick Starkey
      Nick Starkey 개월 전

      And yet he still got 2 kills

    • Luv2Ruck
      Luv2Ruck 개월 전 +3

      This killer is the top ranked player. Saying that their skill is less than the survivors is wrong. Survivors are OP against most killers. And thats why they cry about strong killers.

    • WoobGamer
      WoobGamer 개월 전

      @ndfd m they just need to make the tape insert a bit longer of an action instead of just, 1 second.

  • KinsedLives
    KinsedLives 개월 전 +219

    Hens' team is the 4-stack we all wish we had when we're crying alone in solo queue watching claudette self care with sloppy in the corner of the map

    • Dyslexic Mitochondria
      Dyslexic Mitochondria 개월 전

      krclip.com/video/0QRGrXt0aJs/비디오.html
      ITS FINALLY HERE!!

    • Isaac Simpson
      Isaac Simpson 개월 전 +2

      Then I just feel myself going down an MMR spiral. I want to build MMR to get good teamates but it feels like I get one awful team and then it's just downhill.

    • TheLogicalBeast
      TheLogicalBeast 개월 전 +17

      Or even better, hiding in a locker while you or someone else is on the hook instead of doing a gen or healing an injured teammate i.e. being useful. It's like "why on Earth did I bring fucking Kindred if my teammates are gonna act like complete headless chickens even with survivors seeing each other long as I'm on the hook?" Makes me want to not bring it any more and run more selfish perks LOL. >.

  • Jeric
    Jeric 개월 전 +777

    I love that Hens and his buddies came up with a very specific counterplay for this playstyle, showing that certain aspects of DBD still aren't completely "solved." My only issue is that this playstyle seems so reliant on the pink add-on, that it would only be fair to compare to other killers' best add-ons, like Mother-Daughter Ring, Alc Ring, etc. Like yes, it shows Sadako at her most powerful, but so is Clown when he can oneshot you with a bottle.

    • Valkiriya
      Valkiriya 9 일 전

      hey - i play like this (inspired by Willie) however i often play without the iri add on as i often just dont have any. i always use the ring drawing though. i win most of my games even without the iri add on. oddly, i still get a lot of moris, even 4 man mories sometimes. its a LOT harder without the iri add on but, in solo queue, its not impossible to play without it

    • Brayton Ewell
      Brayton Ewell 19 일 전

      @Rg.notsss Then face high-MMR survivors.

    • Rg.notsss
      Rg.notsss 19 일 전

      @Brayton Ewell base kit tv cd is way too long too

    • Rg.notsss
      Rg.notsss 19 일 전

      @Brayton Ewell it’s so easy to take off condemn stacks, you almost will never mori a survivor without the iri addon

    • Brayton Ewell
      Brayton Ewell 19 일 전

      @Rg.notsss Should've guessed someone like you would come in. 🤣 But no, not necessarily. With skill, any killer can do good as well as bad.
      For instance, facing absolute genrushers at the RPD, I sadly had to tunnel someone to finish a basic mori mission. After getting him out, I was able to condemn the other three while using just the common and uncommon add-ons.
      Thinking about it, it's almost easier to condemn the high-MMR because they don't waste time moving VHS tapes.

  • Emmett H
    Emmett H 개월 전 +1326

    Sadako definitely needs some of her add-ons built in as base kit, and maybe an extra addon that lets Sadako see the accurate condemn meter on survivors (it could be iridescent because its very strong info in the right hands). If not at least let her have an add-on that gets rid of TV auras for survivors until they are fully condemned

    • Lollertoaster
      Lollertoaster 개월 전

      @Black Knight and if they wanna target one person out, help protect that player. Shove em in a corner flicking tvs. While the rest of the team finishes the game in 3 minutes. Survivors still win. Sometimes you need someone to be taken by the bear so your family can get away nomsayn?

    • Lollertoaster
      Lollertoaster 개월 전

      @Black Knight sounds like the state of the game already. Tunnel a guy out. Tunnel next guy out.
      But sadako builds up on everyone. It’s harder to single target rather than manage multiple

    • Black Knight
      Black Knight 개월 전

      @Lollertoaster Who are you referring to..? If me, I don't like Range or Alch ring blights, there isn't much I feel like I can truly do about them.
      It will disrupt the game in the way that 1 survivour will get picked and harassed until dead, completely ignoring everything else in the match, and then going after the next surv who's to be picked and harassed until dead, idk about you but that doesn't sound anything close to being "fun" for a..y'know..game..it'd indeed be "fun" for the sadako herself, but everyone else is going to become "harassment victims" if that makes sense..idk about you but it doesn't sound exactly fair ngl especially for soloq

    • Jon P
      Jon P 개월 전

      @RickyRockstar123 This would just force her to tunnel and ignore 2 hook states. That would make her massively overpowered if she could just force survivors into condemned from the get-go. I had a Sadako use the addon that starts everyone with tapes and try to force someone to die off of it. I thankfully found my tape and inserted it before she was able to condemn me by a sliver of a second just because I got to a lucky pallet right in front of the TV, but if I hadn't I'd be dead before the first gen was finished and that massively swings the game in the killer's favor, arguably to the point the game is just over. She just camped me after she downed me because of me being able to get the tape off, making the match extremely unfun.

    • Lollertoaster
      Lollertoaster 개월 전

      @Black Knight sounds like this dude likes going against range add on nurse and alch blights.
      It’s not going to disrupt the game. It would make matches more challenging. Rather than your typical hurrrrr do gen loop once and leave.

  • SecretlyDaDumbest
    SecretlyDaDumbest 개월 전 +176

    Honestly this really shows how awful Sadako is, even taking the whole SWF thing aside just the fact alone that tapes can be placed faster than she can M1 is really sad and her inability to condemn survivors at a consistent rate just doubles that

    • Juan Pablo Vergara
      Juan Pablo Vergara 개월 전 +6

      While it's true that the tape thing is sad, Sadako was forcing them to play her game and take the tapes, which is a death sentence if she figures out which TV you need.
      What Sadako needs IMO is a buff to her chase so she can play around loops, or a buff to her lethalithy, like making condemned survivors exposed (would be perfect for her other iri which is pretty bad)

  • CDP
    CDP 개월 전 +235

    When Feng said “Sadako is truly rising” I shook and cried for hours

  • Seon Jung
    Seon Jung 개월 전 +140

    If an Iridescent addon is required to perform well/average, then that speaks volumes on the killer. I hope she gets a rework or tremendous buff to allow for more diverse builds and playstyles (such as the Iridescent head/pinky finger nerf or the adrenaline vial buff).

    • natsu galudao
      natsu galudao 26 일 전

      @kato093 what? DBD is very survivor sided, and it's very clear when you watch comp or high mmr. It's almost always about the survivors messing up, unless you're nurse then you're to one to mess up. In general if both killer and survivor are playing competitively, survivors have it very easy

    • kato093
      kato093 개월 전

      @Summonick2 non the problem is that killers have super low skill ceiling and the skill floor is in the basement, so most killer "mains" get away with playing like shit up to rank 1, where they start finding good survivors and so they cry OP.
      DBD is VERY VERY in favor of killers.
      It's unreal how many shit killers get to rank 1, carried by op shit.
      DBD might be the only game I've seen where you actually get BETTER win rates in a higher MMR as killer. It's crazy how stupid it is.

    • Summonick2
      Summonick2 개월 전 +1

      @Stee dbd has a weird balance problem where the median survivor skill is sooo far below the high end survivor skill.

  • PlagueOfGripes
    PlagueOfGripes 개월 전 +40

    I have a lot of criticisms of killers revolving too heavily around add-ons, especially for something like this kind of Sadako play style. Very interesting, but very limited to plowing through dozens of bloodwebs just to run it. If this was how she worked by default, it would also probably be difficult for new players to even comprehend what was happening. I look forward to the inevitable Sadako rework, one day. It's hard to design a killer that does basically nothing but free moris with no hooks, or 4 escapes. She also probably needs to work more like Devour Hope, in the sense that Condemned should work up in increments, not be feast or famine.

    • MergoHaze
      MergoHaze 17 일 전

      Basically everything you Said is 100% correct

    • Stee
      Stee 개월 전 +6

      Just less cooldown on TVs turning back on really should be enough, that can quickly make condemn relevant without add-ons just due to how quickly condemn can go either way. One more extra teleport here and there and suddenly survivors won't be able to get rid of their condemn stacks quickly enough.

  • Mightykeef
    Mightykeef 개월 전 +111

    you should do a series like this with all the #1 rank players of each villian vs these survivors.

    • Hypershock 07
      Hypershock 07 개월 전

      @Krioque eh I think it could come down to the map for some killers. And even then, I think the matches could be really entertaining

    • Krioque
      Krioque 개월 전 +2

      long story short, all the killers lose every match except nurse. even someone like superalf has trouble with competent survivors

    • Dyslexic Mitochondria
      Dyslexic Mitochondria 개월 전

      krclip.com/video/0QRGrXt0aJs/비디오.html
      ITS FINALLY HERE!!

    • bluev1121
      bluev1121 개월 전 +9

      Yo keef, didnt expect to see you here. You play dbd?

  • Zath
    Zath 개월 전 +414

    I actually have a lot of fun with Sadako. She's a bit reliant on her Iri Add-on that keeps her tvs active but she's still pretty decent at spreading pressure if you know how to use her phasing right. That being said, just play Dredge lol.

    • JAγ
      JAγ 개월 전

      I’ve been having so much fun playing her

    • swiizzie
      swiizzie 개월 전 +17

      @Zath exactly, they both play different in a way.

    • Zath
      Zath 개월 전 +25

      @The Doom Slayer Her animations are better. Also she's short and managing to mindgame with her power is satisfying.

    • The Doom Slayer
      The Doom Slayer 개월 전 +17

      Dredge is more fun and better lol u can ACTUALLY use his power both of them mid chase.
      So why do u play Oreo?

    • thedarknight 7
      thedarknight 7 개월 전 +8

      Just play dredge😭😭

  • IZISkillz741
    IZISkillz741 개월 전 +313

    I love playing sadako even if she is on a weaker side you can still do some mindgames with her i just wish she gets a buff so condemned would be a threat for survivors and would result condemned kills a bit more often.

    • TophatKiyaki
      TophatKiyaki 개월 전

      @Stee Condemning without addons is difficult because the rate at which condemned is generated is ridiculously low and the rate at which it is lost is too high. If you condemn a survivor with a TV, they gain ONE stack. You need to do that SEVEN times in one match to actually fully condemn them.
      If at any point they actually pick up a tape, it takes 25 whole seconds just to get ONE stack of condemned. If you get within chase distance of them, the gain pauses and the pause lingers for 6 seconds after you drop chase. And if they get the tape to the targeted TV? Now they lose THREE stacks. Even counting the 1 they get for picking up the tape, they end up with a net 2 reduction, because it is IMPOSSIBLE to keep a survivor from getting to their TV in longer than 25 seconds unless you harass them, and if you harass them, they're not gaining condemned.
      The mechanic is just ridiculous. I'd rather it be removed entirely and replaced with something else, because in its current form it's bogging Sadako down by having her have a mechanic that will do nothing for her in 90% of matches, but the fact it exists means that you can't add anything else onto her or else she becomes ability bloated. Hell, if they're going to insist on it being an instakill like it is, rework it to be like Pyramid Head's.
      You get fully condemned automatically if you're within 16m of a TV when she manifests through it. You can clense yourself of condemned by turning off a TV, but you CANNOT turn off a TV unless you've been condemned, keeping with the idea that the only people trying to stop Sadako are those whom have received her curse. If you are condemned, Sadako can use her special mori on you, but only if you are dead on hook.
      Easy, simple fix, Makes the power INFINITELY more useful without reworking the existing mechanics extensively. Not overpowered because it doesn't help her loop and isn't something that can pop early. It's just like Pyramid Head. Play your cards right, and you get a built in mori.

    • Stee
      Stee 개월 전

      She just needs some way to either (without addons) turn TVs back on or reduce their cooldown. Condemning without addons is only so difficult because most the TVs are turned off for most the match from either Survivors or Sadako herself lol

    • Doomdude
      Doomdude 개월 전

      It feels like it was originally an exposed to be fully condemned but they decided last second to not do that now you can just pop the tape mid-chase

    • Holy Elixir
      Holy Elixir 개월 전

      @TophatKiyaki I mean agree currently with no add-ons it's basically a non-factor. and doing something to make it more of a passive thing survivors actually have to worry about rather than something they can ignore is a welcome change.
      However I think it should always be somewhat rare to see condemn kills. Not once every 100 games or anything but I don't think you should be expecting a condemn kill every game or even every other game.
      Killing people outright needs to be situational. It should be a nice bonus here and there and not their main power. Similar to RBT's

    • TophatKiyaki
      TophatKiyaki 개월 전 +8

      @Holy Elixir The problem is that it needs to happen based on survivor misplays, not killer effort. The looming threat of Sadako being able to insta-kill you should be something that is a lingering danger the survivors have to manage, NOT something Sadako herself has to actively go out of her way to achieve.
      As it currently stands, the opposite is true, and it takes SO much effort to actually get even a single survivor fully condemned that you'd be better off playing naturally and winning via hooks than you ever will be to actually intentionally attempt to get any survivors to full condemned. Condemned should be something like Pinhead's chain hunts (obviously not EXACTLY the same), where its an element that the survivors need to manage or risk becoming condemned and being prone to insta-death, instead of what it is now, where you have to do a very specific and ridiculously insane dance to have any hope of ever seeing a single survivor become condemned in a match, and the other 3 will get out as a result, assuming you even manage to GET that one condemned kill out of it.

  • Atomic Buster
    Atomic Buster 개월 전 +55

    There's something to be said about folks who can take low tier killers and make them real threats. Sure, being a Nurse that gets consistent 4Ks is fine, but a Sadako that's equally as consistent? Massive respect.

    • FinestFantasyVI
      FinestFantasyVI 개월 전 +1

      Agreed, massive respect to the folks to take the "weak" or underrated killers. I feel every killer is an S Rank in the right hands.
      Thats why Im mostly maining Trickster.
      Im sick of Nurses and Blights.

  • Nyx
    Nyx 개월 전 +50

    It's really sad how they can just revert the killer's only power mid chase. They need to increase the timer a little so they can't just do it right after getting hit.

  • The Doctor
    The Doctor 개월 전 +47

    I feel a good change to Sadako's kit would be the addition of an exposed effect when survivors are condemned, or at least an add-on that has that effect.

    • Scott Bryan
      Scott Bryan 10 일 전

      @DettyIsArat the devs are too busy making all the survivors best perks base kit.

    • DettyIsArat
      DettyIsArat 개월 전

      Yeah that's dumb, she should be able to grab survivors who are in the animation for inserting the tape. Like... Pig can grab people who are trying to take a trap off their head... And those things can actually just passively kill survivors without Pig necessarily having to do anything. Sadako requires you chase them and down them like a normal M1 killer, and then get the condemn kill... But as we can see... The survivor can just deny it right in front of her and she's powerless to stop it.
      Genuinely so shocked Sadako has gone this long without the Devs taking a look at her.

    • Nikola Chiara
      Nikola Chiara 개월 전 +1

      @A Drake Condemned is such a weak and irrelevant mechanic, I don't see why she shouldn't be able to. Myers can already do that right now but he is one of the worst killers in the game still, there is no reason for condemn to not also expose survivors

    • A Drake
      A Drake 개월 전 +1

      I think an add on to expose for a certain amount of time after being condemned would be nice. Being able to expose and mori a survivor with no hooks at any point might be a bit busted lol

    • Diavolo’s teddy
      Diavolo’s teddy 개월 전 +2

      @DettyIsArat i don’t think so but she should be able to

  • Pixel Demon
    Pixel Demon 개월 전 +17

    It's so infuriating that they can just insert the tape in front of her during the hit cooldown with no consequences

  • Opo
    Opo 개월 전 +6

    This definitely didn't change my mind at all about Sadako. Even this guy who plays her optimally has to rely on add-ons, and this entire match against good Suvivors was an uphill battle for him. Sadako belongs in trash tier.

  • Zhantay Alstone
    Zhantay Alstone 개월 전 +9

    I don’t know why Sadako’s condemn doesn’t put survivors in a exposed state. Look at how much time it takes to build that meter and still need to land 2 hits. The fact that they can just slide the video tape in right infront of her is so tilting.

    • DettyIsArat
      DettyIsArat 개월 전

      But then again... I can see why the Devs are playing it safe with her. Having a built in, base kit ability to just straight up kill someone without ever hooking them is kind of hard to balance, surely.
      Make it too consistent and suddenly you have another killer that can just straight up ignore the core mechanics of the game consistently. The other being Nurse, of course. And the Devs don't want another Nurse situation.

    • DettyIsArat
      DettyIsArat 개월 전

      I don't even play Sadako and I think it's disgusting that survivors can just completely remove her power's status effect, RIGHT in front of her.
      Without STBFL, Sadako cannot stop Survivors doing this. What sort of horrible game design is that? Imagine if Pyramid Head required the use of a perk to stop survivors from getting rid of their torment right in his face. Imagine if Trapper required the use of a perk to stop Survivors from immediately escaping their bear traps.
      It's bad enough that Condemn takes as long as it does to fill, on top of how much Condemn a survivor gets rid of when they doing tape... It's outright absurd that after all that, a Survivor is finally Condemned... And they can just instantly remove it right in front of the killer's face.

  • TG Cid Orlandu
    TG Cid Orlandu 개월 전 +9

    When you see both sides playing at their best you start see the cracks in the game. Puting the video in the VCR right in front of the killer is just unfair... Bye bye 100 win streak for sadako.

    • FinestFantasyVI
      FinestFantasyVI 개월 전 +1

      ikr? Honestly there should be a grab when you try to put the tape in killers face. Kinda like how you can gen grab survivors or when they try to sabo or anything. You shouldnt just de-condemn yourself in killers face

  • General Grevious
    General Grevious 개월 전 +25

    The whole match was so tense! Love good matches like this😂

  • Steele Thompson
    Steele Thompson 개월 전 +53

    Otz I love ur content really helps through the tuff times thanks man😊

    • Steele Thompson
      Steele Thompson 개월 전 +15

      @not Otzdarva thanks otz ur the best KRclipr/ streamer ever

    • not Otzdarva
      not Otzdarva  개월 전 +35

      Hope those tough times are over soon. Big hugs.

  • kpopzeroo
    kpopzeroo 개월 전 +24

    Probs to Willie still doing good even when These Matches are hard against him definetly gonna Check him out

  • Vinícius Torres
    Vinícius Torres 개월 전 +7

    #1 Sadako in the world struggling to win against a team of survivors playing in the most fair way possible says a lot about how weak she is. If those specific survivors had the average public match loadout, including Syringes, BnP, they'd probably get a 4 man out in every match. Now, the 100 Streak was done in public matches, but you don't meet this kind of survivors often on the queues, if at all. But then again, the average or above-average killer isn't even near as skilled as this guy, so matches are prone to be not in Sadako's favor.

    • Ladale Lee
      Ladale Lee 개월 전

      I met a group like this as a killer, I was completely demoralized but made me grow.

    • Icost
      Icost 개월 전 +1

      Not even struggling to win, more like completely failing to do so with the best result being 1 kill.
      I think Sadako got two kills in total over that entire stream, and then the survivors were handicapped in different ways as you were pointing out by lack of perks, communication, items etc.

  • snapees
    snapees 개월 전 +7

    I enjoy the commentary. Helps me understand what im watching especially some of the nuanced tough plays that I either miss completely, or the killer and survivors are so talented they make it look easy! Great showcase and would love more like this if possible!

  • Anriasi
    Anriasi 개월 전 +3

    That really says something about how good those survivors were when they can get a 4-man escape with no perks or addons

  • Bingoviini
    Bingoviini 개월 전 +35

    This stradegy is actually really scary
    It forces everyone to play the game differently

  • Hey Its Quiet
    Hey Its Quiet 개월 전 +59

    Entity pays the power bill for the realm specifically to keep Sadako's TVs on

    • mixedmega
      mixedmega 개월 전

      @The Doom Slayer Wrong survivor screams like monsters inc

    • The Doom Slayer
      The Doom Slayer 개월 전

      @Hey Its Quiet he's powered by survivors tears

    • W3475ter
      W3475ter 개월 전 +1

      @Hey Its Quiet and then they take the excess Doctor charges and gives them to the TVs

    • Hey Its Quiet
      Hey Its Quiet 개월 전 +3

      @W3475ter doctor is powered by solar wym

    • W3475ter
      W3475ter 개월 전 +9

      Nah they just plug them into Doctor

  • One of the 12 Sion Mains

    This man's insanely unique strategy makes survivors play the way BHVR intended with the tapes, but were too scared to make it remotely viable.

  • Not Really
    Not Really 개월 전 +5

    It is a pity that the survivors are not exposed once they are fully condemned. Also, the fact that survivors can just insert the tape in front of you without any problem should not be the case.

  • Chris Ellerbe
    Chris Ellerbe 개월 전 +6

    I love Sadako I so badly want her to get buffed to be a viable option to win matches consistently without the struggle of her power setup and no chase advantages

  • xReapahh
    xReapahh 개월 전 +3

    Please make this a series! Best SWF vs Best Killer! - Maybe SupaAlf for the nurse edition?

  • TRAPcub
    TRAPcub 개월 전 +2

    Funny how every killer feels like a clown against a good team. Balanced game 😎

  • GolemofWill472
    GolemofWill472 개월 전 +6

    I almost wish they were exposed while they were condemned. It really lacks a rewarding feel until they are down which they can even prolong by jumping in lockers. Hope the devs fix Sadako before anyone else because she really deserves to be properly looked into considering how recent she is and especially since a better killer with a teleport came out right after.

  • Manan K
    Manan K 개월 전

    9:46 OMG This was my Favourite Part It's amazing! they're so good.

  • Person
    Person 개월 전 +41

    Love this series

  • kyleeeee c
    kyleeeee c 개월 전 +2

    That was crazy to watch, both sides were absolutely insane!

  • h2ojr1
    h2ojr1 개월 전 +3

    when they were able to 4 man with no items and no perks, i knew sadako had cemented herself in F tier

  • Obidiah Goldshekelsteinovitz

    Love seeing the community together.

  • CloutCloud
    CloutCloud 개월 전 +11

    She’s definitely better in public matches against survivors that are all solo and not 10,000 plus hours lol. Than again that makes it better for any killer😅

  • ScoopsAhoySteve
    ScoopsAhoySteve 개월 전 +4

    Sadako is by far one of my favorite killers aesthetic and power wise, but it’s a shame she’s so weak

  • TEA Captain DK
    TEA Captain DK 개월 전

    What a great match! Looking forward to more of these high-tier matches with your commentary, Otz! 😎

  • Dan P
    Dan P 개월 전 +2

    From the sounds of it they knew what they were going into and had prepared strats and stuff. This would have been 10x more interesting had you just been like hey all you god survivors that play together come play against this guy in a custom and lets see what happens.

    • FinestFantasyVI
      FinestFantasyVI 개월 전

      True, it seems more fair that way. Like in normal games people dont know what comes their way. This test was stacked up against Sadako.

  • Egle V
    Egle V 개월 전 +1

    Tier reasons aside, this was an absolutely wonderful showdown! I was halfly paying attention to it live, and rewatched the vod couple days ago, and those were just insane and highly entertaining matches, very well done both Willie and the Survivor squad. And you could see that even though Willie got no kills later on, it wasn't for him being bad, it was for him just getting outplayed by even better opponents.

  • Impressive Butt
    Impressive Butt 개월 전 +2

    I just think if they had players exposed with condemned that would be perfect I think

  • greenlight96
    greenlight96 개월 전

    It's really satisfying to me that i discovered how to play her the exact same way on my own shortly after she came out. I've seen other good onryo players use the same strategy too. I tend to use perks that help in chase more like either brutal strength or disillusion for pallets and save the best for last for quicker follow up hits

  • ChrisMorray
    ChrisMorray 27 일 전

    Now this is really fun. You share your thoughts, someone gives their own take, and you just went ahead and spotlighted it. Even if it didn't change your opinion much, it's fun to see an unconvential build that works out against less coordinated teams

  • A-V
    A-V 개월 전

    It makes me happy to see Sadako being such a threat, and requiring such strong co-ordination. But at the same time, it requires her strongest add-on. BHVR needs to make some changes to increase her strength

  • Zabit Productions
    Zabit Productions 개월 전 +2

    Love watching high level games like this!

  • Diablito Kawaii
    Diablito Kawaii 개월 전

    I love how Willie got a chance to play out of his mind agaisnt those great survivors u never seen on soloQ

  • Levi Workman
    Levi Workman 개월 전 +2

    Very similar to the build I use on Onryo. I replace discordance with brutal, and usually take STBFL/Sloppy instead of mindbreaker.
    Eruption is one of my favorite perks, but hate using it with discordance/surveillance or most other perks that turn gens yellow. CoB has a cool down on the icon so it works out. I wish there were some other aura colors to differentiate perk effects, or maybe only an outline around the aura when multiple effects are stacked on one gen.

  • Mystery Gaming
    Mystery Gaming 개월 전 +2

    I agree with your killer list completely except for Spirit I still think she belongs in S tier

  • LobAutumny
    LobAutumny 개월 전 +1

    Something worth noting for this experiment is that the survivors knew what they were going up against ahead of time and were able to mentally prepare themselves and think about strategy before the match even began. I think one of the greatest assets of a Sadako running this sort of strategy in normal matches is that it has a tendency to catch people off guard and it can be difficult to figure out that this is her strategy until it's too late.

  • HADES Music
    HADES Music 개월 전 +4

    It's crazy to think of a team that ALWAYS plays together. They must have it down to a science. I'd love to hear their comms

    • Enzo
      Enzo 개월 전

      you can watch the survivor POV on Hens' channel! he also uploads their winstreaks and listening to their comms stresses me out more than a nurse with starstruck

  • Jacob
    Jacob 개월 전

    Something that I thought was very interesting was that the Coal Tower match showed that a game can be fun without a killer having to hook someone all the time and the survivors having to rescue over and over.

  • Kefka Connoisseur
    Kefka Connoisseur 개월 전

    Seeing any Sadako gameplay always reminds me of that Sadako I went against in solo queue who got 3 condemned kills because I was the only one putting tapes back, I had a bunch of close calls cause of healing and getting tapes but she did kill me on hook, I knew she wanted that 4 man condemn badly

  • Hashiriya
    Hashiriya 개월 전 +2

    i love this type of videos, is like otz being the king and then just throws people at the colloseum to fight for entertainment

  • Vituperator
    Vituperator 개월 전 +1

    She's very perk and add-on dependent, but is really fun to practise this playstyle

  • K
    K 개월 전 +3

    I watched those survivors play before and there amazing. I love seeing good killers and good survivors.

    • Max Shir
      Max Shir 개월 전 +1

      Just random fact: their 200+ escape streak is over this day. Another random fact is i witnessed it on stream and this was my 1st game watching them playing this strategy.

  • TK_the_Onion
    TK_the_Onion 개월 전 +2

    "Make them play against each other"
    This makes me think of just setting up huge NPC battles in gmod
    That was fun
    Also sadako is short, or something, idk

  • Nikki
    Nikki 개월 전 +2

    OMG yes! I've played against OnePumpWillie's Sadako before and he is absolutely insane with her!

    • Titik Dua
      Titik Dua 개월 전

      Last fight krclip.com/video/fVHs1LAQZM8/비디오.html

  • SilentSword
    SilentSword 개월 전

    I always enjoy how you explain everything so clearly... Very good video thank you for this❤️👍

  • Kyle
    Kyle 개월 전

    Hey it’s for the next killer comparison, could you do Nurse and Blight? I’d be interested to see the power difference displayed and maybe highlight some of the problems these two have

  • Nef
    Nef 개월 전 +1

    Gotta also keep in mind that it was custom and these survivors knew what he was going for unlike public lobbies

  • ScreaminBloodyMurder
    ScreaminBloodyMurder 개월 전 +2

    those are the same addons i use when I play Sadako! Im glad people are realizing how strong it can actually be when used right!

  • RubiCookie
    RubiCookie 개월 전 +47

    We love being early for Otz! Sadako seems pretty strong with this build and playstyle.

    • Ja Bacon
      Ja Bacon 개월 전 +3

      She literally lives and dies by 2 add ons. The question on whether you can play her and have fun is “do you currently have these two add ons?”
      I don’t know how she can even be seen as fun at this point. She doesn’t have build variety, you have to play in an extremely sweaty and prediction-heavy style (also helps if you add cheese by doing a lot of “moonwalking” like old pig), and good survivors can still pretty easily counter this strategy, not to mention some levels make her absolute trash depending on RNG

    • BunnyB
      BunnyB 개월 전 +4

      Pretty strong is a bit of a stretch, but definitely better for sure !

  • August 8
    August 8 27 일 전

    8:03 it really hurts to see a killer this weak and hopeless I really felt bad for him no killer should be this hopeless👍🏻

  • Laphi
    Laphi 개월 전 +1

    Watching this playstyle was awesome! It really fits Sadako so well with how threatening the curse is. I really think this sort of playstyle should be encouraged. I hope they don't nerf this playstyle completely, because if they put their minds to it and adjust the balance, this could be a very special thing for the game. Award BP appropriately (I don't think survs get a lot of BP against this), reconsider allowing Sadako to see condemn progress, and making sure camping a TV isn't too strong will go a long way to making a very novel killer playstyle.

    • Hailey
      Hailey 개월 전

      I think allowing Sadako to see condemned progress might just encourage tunnelling out the most condemned survivor. Sure, it'd make her stronger, but it'd also encourage a playstyle that isn't fun for survivors. Instant DCs are already a big problem for many killers, and I feel like that change might cause people to instant DC against Sadako.

  • PeanutBLuke
    PeanutBLuke 개월 전 +1

    Sadako is really cool, I enjoy seeing the best of the best!

  • Bryan Ávila
    Bryan Ávila 개월 전

    Watching this kind of videos I realize how much knowledge I'm missing on DBD having almost 2k hours on the game

  • Joshua Donovan
    Joshua Donovan 개월 전 +1

    I played against this as a solo and got goopped it was demoralizing. Glad to see hes a savage. Solo q stood no chance

  • Mr Hupwop
    Mr Hupwop 개월 전

    I think Sadako has a lot going for her, my personal favorite killer

  • Dorian Gray
    Dorian Gray 개월 전 +2

    Good example of just how broken survivors can be when played well, man struggled to get even a single down for so long

    • FinestFantasyVI
      FinestFantasyVI 개월 전

      even when perkless. Thats a big oof. But also shows how sometimes voice comms are the strongest perk that we cant nerf

  • Old Pernilong0
    Old Pernilong0 개월 전 +9

    I think sadako condemned should work like pig: she would have a visual clue about how much the survivor is condemned when she is actively chasing the survivor.
    Maybe static could get more frequent as the survivor is closer to 7

    • FinestFantasyVI
      FinestFantasyVI 개월 전 +1

      @Old Pernilong0 ikr? Its so obscure and hidden.
      Its kinda like how she has built in Whispers with her tv, and I only realized that when Dowsey showed that

    • The Nata
      The Nata 개월 전 +1

      @Old Pernilong0 I know, I wouldn't know it either if it wasn't for April Ghosts video. No idea why it's not mentioned anywhere but it's probably just like the built in whisper Sadako has when Survivors are near TVs, people only find out about that like months later.

    • Old Pernilong0
      Old Pernilong0 개월 전 +2

      @The Nata WAIT WHAT... This info is so obscure its nowhere to be seen at the wiki. Not even Otzdarva knows about that...

    • The Nata
      The Nata 개월 전 +3

      This is actually how it works right now, the closer a person is to 7 condemned the more static glitching they got around them. If you want to know how exactly each stage looks like go and check the Yt Channel April Ghost, they posted a few tips&tricks about Sadako and they also got Sadako gameplay.

  • Gavin Allen
    Gavin Allen 개월 전 +2

    I main pyramid head and most people call my playstyle weird so I can definitely relate to that dude lol

  • Where is lamp
    Where is lamp 개월 전 +6

    I really like this killer's ability to ignore late game body blocks (saying this as a survivor main) because I hate it when all the survivors have to do is conga line to the exit gate once a door is opened, which can really suck if the doors are unlucky for the killer

    • FinestFantasyVI
      FinestFantasyVI 개월 전

      @Where is lamp Interesting, I had no idea about Nemesis. Sadly I dont have him, but good to know if I get him.
      And true for Plague, I havent thought of that.

    • Where is lamp
      Where is lamp 개월 전

      @FinestFantasyVI there's also Nemesis' tentacle prioritizing an infected survivor, and plague potentially having red puke & puking over the blockers, but those are both very conditional and not reliable

    • FinestFantasyVI
      FinestFantasyVI 개월 전

      Agreed, Sadako is unique in that regard and I love it.
      The only other that sorta comes close is Trickster, but only with the Cut Thru U addon.

  • WackyKillerMain
    WackyKillerMain 개월 전 +2

    ots never dissapoints with his vids, literally love this guy

    • Titik Dua
      Titik Dua 개월 전

      Last fight krclip.com/video/fVHs1LAQZM8/비디오.html

  • thegothaunt
    thegothaunt 개월 전 +1

    This was so fun. I love getting t o watch amazing matches with you commentating!

    • Titik Dua
      Titik Dua 개월 전

      Last fight krclip.com/video/fVHs1LAQZM8/비디오.html

  • Flufwuku Tarazard
    Flufwuku Tarazard 개월 전 +10

    As a Sadako Main, i recomend new players to just play Dredge, its a lot more powerful and even a little bit more fun. But still, i love her.

    • Stee
      Stee 개월 전

      @The Doom Slayer The instant teleport is huge, Dredge can't bounce back and forth around the entire map quite like Sadako, although compared to most other killers his map mobility is still insane of course.
      Plus there's some interesting mind games to be had with the smallest killer in the game.

    • сосал максу паверу
      сосал максу паверу 개월 전

      @The Doom Slayer less fun. Dredge: Artist. Onryo: so manifest on this side looking this way move when u blink there then go there fake this and hit.
      Dredge: m2 and survivor holds W. the amount of fun is insane

    • сосал максу паверу
      сосал максу паверу 개월 전

      someone explain to me how to not get annoyed by locked lockers

    • Titik Dua
      Titik Dua 개월 전

      Last fight krclip.com/video/fVHs1LAQZM8/비디오.html

  • LyndBloom
    LyndBloom 개월 전 +1

    Hey otz i loved the hardcore survival challenge and I loved the call outs you did with the others about the map idk if you did a video on it and if yes I am sorry for asking this but would you like to do a video about how to do this type of call outs and stuff

  • Кирилл Кондрашов

    You know. I agree with you for the most part, but I don't think that the fact that this strategy is unknown makes her weaker. You said that the team should be coordinated, but I can say the same about almost every killer in the game. This team can win the best Plague in the world or PH. And I am not sure that there is an easy counterplay that every survivor will use if they learn this strategy. Sadako requires smart decisons from you. It is her essense. She is one of the few killers that requires to use your brain, not your mechanical skill. Her playstyle is about mindgames.

  • Brandon Purdy-Lenz
    Brandon Purdy-Lenz 개월 전 +3

    The fact that they can insert tapes literally mid hit chain is dumb, for a low tier power that requires constant commitment and the use of her best add-ons, they need to make taking and inserting tapes slower, even if its just 2-3 seconds.

  • jsmilely
    jsmilely 개월 전

    those were some well fought matches from both sides.

  • August Jay
    August Jay 18 일 전

    I love her but I can't bring myself to play her often because against a good team it's incredibly hard to win

  • LeatherLatex
    LeatherLatex 개월 전 +1

    Watching this makes me believe sadako is actually F tier

  • Just Gabe
    Just Gabe 개월 전 +2

    This is literally the first time I commented on one of your videos I think, anyways I love your videos and your streams are awesome and you're really good on both sides but I think you're better on killer honestly and I love sadako. I think she got a bad rep and I keep hearing people are saying she's not the worst killer but the weakest killer and whenever I want to see her gameplay on KRclip I literally don't see any I mean I digress I see some but those are like from like when she came out from like 10 months ago I think and I haven't seen anyone play her since so I think she deserves more love

  • Emmy Morales
    Emmy Morales 개월 전 +1

    Doing 4 Mori sandako is actually super fun. I got it after three tries. I think it’s the best way to play her tbh. She doesn’t feel m1 anymore

  • Drowsy
    Drowsy 개월 전 +1

    IMO, I think sadako should be able to grab people off the T.V. She still wouldn’t be broken and maybe still underpowered

  • Flesh Deficiency
    Flesh Deficiency 개월 전 +1

    Just watching this game took ten years off my life from stress.

  • Pharaoh Thutmosis
    Pharaoh Thutmosis 개월 전

    You know otz, watching this made me realize something, The entire Hook mechanic, and hook stages, carrying, wasting time with it, playing around it is perhaps very detrimental for this game at this point, i know it's hard to critize a core pillar that makes DBD DBD, but step out of the box for a second, imagine if they could make new ways to trap,kill, freeze, jail, influence survivors, to do more with them than just hooking and downing, new gamemodes, new gamestyles.
    further strenghtening my idea and point atleast for myself is that the most interesting killers to watch and play is the ones that has other options than the default hook's like Sadako, Pyramid head, Pig and honorable mention, Doctor, because he has alot of extra things that survivors has do deal with if they let him stack them on them, debuffs if you may, same with wesker and nemesis, zombos are hilarious in their game throwing and winning plays.
    TLDR: To really breathe life into the game they should look to add more game mechanics related to hooking, or replacing it with something new and balanced of course

  • Sir Dragon Moon
    Sir Dragon Moon 개월 전 +1

    I like playing her but I wish survivors who were condemned were also exposed; there are already killers who under sertain conditions get to insta down you, it doesnt feel nice to have people be able to tank putting the tapes cause the normal attack animation is longer than that for the tapes

  • Brian Hillman
    Brian Hillman 개월 전

    Hey Otz I found an interesting strat with trapper on RPD you should try before it changes. Do both IRI add ons, RPD offering, Plaything, Hysteria, Dark devotion, and Spies. On the west side of RPD you can set traps on 3 gens, either in doorways, halls, or right next to the gen if its a two person, and make it impossible for them to touch any of the 3 gen without touching bloody coil. This becomes extremely hard to break, you get a ton of stealth with your perks, and Spies lets you track down injured survivors easily. Really fun, but also really unfair, Love the content Peace!

  • B_mod, Scholar of the Fourth WAH

    Really weird that for this experiment you allowed killer to run the strongest stuff with no limits while survivors handicap themselves.
    Wonder how the results would change if both tried to win at 100% power.

  • Mingo Dingo
    Mingo Dingo 개월 전 +4

    Otz is being polite but Willie lost DECISIVELY in every single one of those matches. Even the first one, yes. Everybody can tell they had the three man escape if they had wanted it. They chose to be overly altruistic for fun. Body blocking a demanifested onryo? Please.

    • Stee
      Stee 개월 전 +1

      It's an insanely snowbally game, first game was really close the entire time, multiple survivors at nearly full condemn with 4 gens left, a single early kill and it would all be over.
      The perkless game was interesting though, really shows once again how little of a difference survivor perks actually make lol.

  • Flex Galaxy
    Flex Galaxy 개월 전 +18

    I've seen tons of really cool ideas on how the condemned mechanic could be buffed without making her OP and BHVR still has yet to announce any changes to her kit. Feels Sadako, man

    • I DONT COMMENT UNLESS YOUR DUMB
      I DONT COMMENT UNLESS YOUR DUMB 개월 전 +1

      They took 2 years to buff Freddy and then they nerfed him at the first sign of him being actually good, don't get your hopes up.

    • Gorou
      Gorou 개월 전 +1

      Keep in mind these are very high mmr coordinated skilled survivors and thats the one AND only reason why Sadako seems so bad 😃 she's truly S+ tier in solo q.
      /(Sarcasm btw before u come for me)

  • Mike Canion
    Mike Canion 개월 전

    this build is way more effective in solo q for sure, it has a really strong surprise factor and that's the whole point, but once the survivors catch on it's really difficult to secure kills

  • xxGhostlyLilacxx
    xxGhostlyLilacxx 개월 전 +2

    I love sadako, only killer I have ever made it to iridescent with and without op perks definitely my main

    • Titik Dua
      Titik Dua 개월 전

      Last fight krclip.com/video/fVHs1LAQZM8/비디오.html

  • E2B2
    E2B2 개월 전

    Personally I’m surprised that Otz can find so many insane people on Dead By Daylight, most insane people aren’t even clinically diagnosed I believe.

  • P.Taylor
    P.Taylor 개월 전

    The thing is the way to buff Sadako is incredibly easy. Make it so once a survivor reaches 7 stacks they can no longer remove condemned. It's lore friendly and makes condemned more like an RVB lite as to not make her too op.